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i am not present and aware all day, thats unrealistic without full switching
Deleted User 9/24/2021 6:57 PM
He isn't talking about tulpa
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 6:57 PM
But
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It eventually can become a passive lifestyle
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And aids in being omni
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If you are aware all the time while awake you will be when you dream is the idea
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berockly (TTG)
Yea
So you made her during self-isolation, it’s nothing unusual i would say
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 6:58 PM
Why are we ever not aware?
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 6:58 PM
People just arent
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 6:59 PM
Things happen for a reason.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 6:59 PM
They are too caught up in experience itself without actually realizing they are in the experience
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Its about a sense of "i am here"
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:00 PM
Why are you interested in developing ADA?
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:00 PM
My own reasons
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Partially due to another goal
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Being omno
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Omni*
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Deleted User 9/24/2021 7:01 PM
We could get back to the topic of tulpamancy though.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:01 PM
Yes
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We should
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Deleted User 9/24/2021 7:01 PM
You said that third of your goal was to fully develop your tulpa
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What you mean by that?
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:02 PM
Basically have her achieve awareness
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berockly (TTG)
And fully developing my tulpa
Wish some of the hosts were fully developed 👀
squee 1
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Wait whats omni
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:03 PM
Thats part of why i have the goals i do To understand my own mind
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proxi
Wait whats omni
berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:03 PM
Every dream is lucid
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And one method of LD is TILD
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Or
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Tulpa Induced Lucid Dreaming
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I used to have that when i was young, was hard to rest
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I'd say awareness is something that tulpa shares with you.
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proxi
I used to have that when i was young, was hard to rest
Deleted User 9/24/2021 7:04 PM
Yeah, I suspected that it must be tiresome.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:04 PM
Ive heard it delends on the person
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I know a few omni's
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They say they love ig
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It*
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Deleted User 9/24/2021 7:05 PM
It's hard to verify if all of your dreams are lucid too
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You might have one lucid dream at night and a few normal ones, can't you?
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:06 PM
How can someone tell the difference between ADA/Omni-lucidity and confabulation?
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:06 PM
OMni means ALL
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ADA is a method of achieving omni
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We can take the topic to dms if you want to learn more
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How can someone tell the difference between ADA/Omni-lucidity and confabulation?
@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump Can you confabulate being aware?
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:08 PM
What is confabulate
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ADA is a type of DILD
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WHich is
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Dream Initiated Lucid Dreaming
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Yuka
How can someone tell the difference between ADA/Omni-lucidity and confabulation?
@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump Can you confabulate being aware?
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:08 PM
Not at the time, no. But after that fact, yes.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:09 PM
What is confabulate
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:09 PM
(after the alleged fact)
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Confabulation is the unconscious filling in of gaps in memory with fabricated facts and experiences.
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It's very distinct to lying.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:10 PM
You will know if your lucid
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Because you will feel it
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I dont know how to explain awareness in words
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The word isn't acthally awareness i think
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Awareness is just the closest
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To it
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berockly (TTG)
You will know if your lucid
Deleted User 9/24/2021 7:11 PM
You can't be sure that there aren't dreams when you aren't lucid, can you?
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Deleted User
You can't be sure that there aren't dreams when you aren't lucid, can you?
berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:12 PM
Not certainly
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But thats why recall is a skill to learn with it
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At your request i can send articles to your dms
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Not at the time, no. But after that fact, yes.
@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump I mean, "all day awareness" is a goal of being aware all day, essentially mindfulness. And not as a tulpa thing, but as a lucid dreaming technique to bring lucid awareness into dreams. I doubt anyone's claiming to never ever have a lapse in awareness. But if you catch yourself you'd know you went a little while without that mindful awareness
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Yuka
Not at the time, no. But after that fact, yes.
@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump I mean, "all day awareness" is a goal of being aware all day, essentially mindfulness. And not as a tulpa thing, but as a lucid dreaming technique to bring lucid awareness into dreams. I doubt anyone's claiming to never ever have a lapse in awareness. But if you catch yourself you'd know you went a little while without that mindful awareness
berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:14 PM
^
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ADA is also a method to obtain omni
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Omni is a title
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And obviously there are outliers that end up being non lucid
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:16 PM
I was just wondering if was possible to fool yourself into thinking you have been more aware than you actually were.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:16 PM
Omni can be achieved in as little as a few months if done right
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:16 PM
I don't see how it's possible to fool yourself you are aware when you're not, though. Nobody there to do the fooling.
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People generally think they're more aware than they actually are, so yeah, I guess
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I am fooling myself i am aware at this moment
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There's different levels of awareness
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:18 PM
Thunk of it like this
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:18 PM
If I'm understanding correctly, it sounds like the idea is that training to notice and promote awareness when awake can be a transferable skill to when asleep.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:18 PM
Its the difference between watching a movie and getting lost in it and watching the screen remembering its a movie
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People get lost in their experience
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Without knowing they are having one
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Like I might be aware of this chat right now, but I wasn't super focused on my overall awareness as a conscious being experiencing the room and myself as an aware being
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:19 PM
Yes
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Som
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You have sensual awareness
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:19 PM
So awareness in this sense would be 'going meta', and realising that there is a 'you' watching the movie etc.
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:19 PM
Aware of tour senses
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And
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Awareness of that awareness
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Ye. lol I haven't read up on lucid dreaming recently, I'm just going off my general knowledge of stuff
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:20 PM
Aware that you are there
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And let the senses come to you instead of seeking them out
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I can help you touch up on yourjknowledge
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Its a generally nice community
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There are some similar concepts in Buddhism and eastern philosophy
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:23 PM
But
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Besides attention what else should i use to grow lynn as a person
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berockly (TTG)
Besides attention what else should i use to grow lynn as a person
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:24 PM
it strikes me that she might use the same awareness techniques
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that's why I was trying to ask about them'
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berockly (TTG) 9/24/2021 7:24 PM
Yea i had in mind to try and sea if i could get lynn in a similar state as i was trying to get in
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And maybe us accomplish it together
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/24/2021 7:24 PM
If you can make it a habit for her to notice she is herself, then she'll do it spontaneously, like you can.
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